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There are several families of languages where the same word can mean either a concept closely related to time or a concept closely related to weather:

  • Romance root: French temps, Italian tempo, Spanish tiempo, …
  • Slavic root: Bulgarian време, Croatian vrijeme, Romanian vreme, …
  • Celtic root: Gaelic aimsir, Breton amzer, …
  • Hungarian: idő

These are four sets of languages with no obvious etymological connection for this word. They do, however, have geographical connections, so with only this data I can't exclude cross-language contamination from some proto-Indo-European root.

Is there a known single origin for the connection between weather and time? Or is there a pattern that is known to have appeared independently in several language families (perhaps linking the passage of time with the succession of seasons which are marked by different weather)?

This question was prompted by this question on French Language & Usage.

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Actually in Russian время is only "time", while "weather" is погода; and Romanian is a Romance language, not Slavic. – Alenanno Sep 22 '11 at 22:47
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Latin languages are actually called "Romance languages" in English. – Otavio Macedo Sep 22 '11 at 22:48
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@Alennano: Romanian vreme is borrowed from a Slavic language. – Alek Storm Sep 25 '11 at 21:20
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For the Hungarian case it could be enlightening to find the words in related languages like Mansi and Khanty. Also what do Finnish and Estonian do? – hippietrail Sep 26 '11 at 7:02
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In Greek, the word καιρός is used to describe both time and weather. The Greek dictionary defines it as right proportion, due measure; right place; right time or season, opportunity; time, critical moment; importance, influence; profit success. Oddly enough, it also defines it to be embarrassment, unless of course this is a homophone. – Bill Sep 28 '11 at 13:02
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A known single origin for all is certainly impossible since many languages don't have the same cognate term. So what I guesss you are really looking for is a single plausible justification for semantic similarity between the concepts that might lead to using a single cognate term (wihtin a language) for the same concept.

The canonical example, the Romance languages, where the terms for the two concepts are identical, all stem from both "time" and "weather" deriving from "tempestus" = "season, weather" (EN) derived directly from "tempus" for "time" (EN).

The other examples in IE, Slavic and Celtic, sometimes have one cognate form ("vrijeme" (CR)) sometimes two, "pogoda" "czas" (PL).

The only other language (not already mentioned) I could find (using Google translate) where the two concepts have a common word is Vietnamese:

  • time: thời gian
  • weather: thời tiết

where all the individual words seem to be about time.

This is just examples. All we can really do is is make an educated but still speculative explanation about the semantic drift that since there does exist at least one example where the distinct concepts have similar roots (Latin), that a word form for "time" has affinities with marked time periods with special weather a "season", and that can drift over to "weather" itself. That one example is enough to justify that they are related.

The existence of the example in Vietnamese just makes it more likely that it is not such a crazy explanation, because, as you you suggest, it comes from a supposedly uninfluenced language area (supposing that even those a Celtic "ams" for both time and weather was not an independent creation but a loan "analogy", even though the root is independent).

One might suggest that Vietnamese might have its pair of terms influenced analogy wise by French but that would take a more in-depth historical/etymological analysis of Vietnamese.

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I know this is my second comment to you, nothing personal! :) Anyway, as far as I know, the italian "tempo" comes directly from tempus not going through the other term. But anyway, tempus had the "season" meaning as well, so... – Alenanno Oct 2 '11 at 20:34
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@Mitch: Vietnamese thời is one reading of the Han character 時 (time, season; hour; era, age, period). There is another reading thì which is surely related to Mandarin shí and Cantonese si4. But I don't know whether the two Vietnamese readings are related or if one is Sino and one native. In any case Chinese clearly relates time and season and it's no stretch to see the semantic relationship between season and weather. – hippietrail Oct 2 '11 at 22:46
@hippietrail: so the phenomenon is about if there are cognates that cover separate 'time' (passage of time) and 'weather' (meteorological activity). Are you saying that those Mandarin and Cantonese lexemes both elicit time and weather semantics? – Mitch Oct 2 '11 at 23:57
@Mitch: Well possibly, these are not languages I know so much about, I just followed link trails around Wiktionary. – hippietrail Oct 3 '11 at 0:00
@Mitch just curious what do you mean by (EN), (CR) and (PL) in your answer? – Louis Rhys Oct 3 '11 at 16:02
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In a discussion with a literary group I attended, someone pointed out that similar "early" instruments such as sundials, were used to measure both time and temperature. So apparently, there was a "common cause," but not an obvious one. And it seems that a number of languages have overlaps between the words for time and temperature.

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