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Timeline for The ate-eight split?

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Jun 4, 2018 at 12:29 history edited Stephanus Tavilrond CC BY-SA 4.0
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Mar 21, 2018 at 19:58 comment added iacobo In some British English dialects, ate is pronounced as /ɛt/ contrasting eight /eɪt/, but none of the other words you mention have this vowel in these dialects, they are all /eɪ/.
Mar 21, 2018 at 18:56 comment added Stephanus Tavilrond By the Dutch part, I mean that one Dutch friend of mine also distinguishes between "eight" and "ate" when he speaks English. AS for professional judgements from trained phoneticians... no, I do not have that. No, I did not consult any professional. I simply happen to have first-hand experience with it, as both me, and other Hungarians (experience) distinguish the two words, and I can clearly tell the difference between a long monophthong and a diphthong.
Mar 21, 2018 at 18:43 comment added user6726 I don't understand the Dutch part: do you mean that Dutch speakers also distinguish "eight" and "ate" when they speak English? If we cut out the claim about Swedish and Dutch, I guess the question is, what is your evidence that Hungarian speakers do this? For instance, do you have recordings and professional judgments from trained phoneticians?
Mar 21, 2018 at 18:28 history asked Stephanus Tavilrond CC BY-SA 3.0