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| Oct 30, 2020 at 18:09 | comment | added | Alex | @JanusBahsJacquet Yes true OSV is impossible but I'm not sure "yo lo hice" counts as an SOV sentence. Lo is a pronoun and I'm not sure it counts as a "object". VOS is typical of Asian languages - Persian, Hindi, Urdu and Japanese for example. Mein ghar ko ja ra ha hoon in Hindi - literally "Me house to am going". This is a proper VOS sentence - como dios manda as we say. | |
| Oct 30, 2020 at 12:16 | comment | added | Janus Bahs Jacquet | But SOV is exceedingly common – mandatory, in fact, when the object is a pronoun (yo lo hice), unless of course the subject gets shifted so you get OVS. With non-pronominal objects, I agree SOV is at best highly artificial (I suppose hoy mi madre la comida hizo could just about work in a poem or song, but probably not in regular speech). But I think OSV should be equally impossible – la comida mi madre hizo sounds as wrong to me, at least without a resumptive object pronoun after the subject. | |
| Oct 30, 2020 at 12:08 | comment | added | Alex | @JanusBahsJacquet I meant All except SOV. Sorry typo... Fixed. VOS is doable if more rare: "Hoy hizo la comida mi madre" is correct. Spanish is extremely flexible compared to other Romance languages. | |
| Oct 30, 2020 at 12:05 | history | edited | Alex | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Oct 29, 2020 at 19:53 | comment | added | Janus Bahs Jacquet | OVS is perfectly possible in Spanish as well, albeit with the limitation that the object has to be pronominal (lo dijo José). Did you mean to say that OSV is the only disallowed order? Barring emphatic topicalisation, I cannot think of any OSV clauses that sound grammatical (and even with emphatic topicalisation, you’d usually have a resumptive pronominal object as well: esto yo no [lo] quise). Though VOS seems quite impossible to me too (hice lo yo?). | |
| Oct 29, 2020 at 17:56 | history | edited | Alex | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Oct 29, 2020 at 15:26 | review | Late answers | |||
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| Oct 29, 2020 at 15:07 | history | answered | Alex | CC BY-SA 4.0 |