Timeline for How do languages without adjectives, that treat them instead as verbs, handle more complex adjective-like phrases?
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Oct 28, 2022 at 13:33 | comment | added | Colin Fine | You might like to have a look at Lojban, @Lance: that's a conlang, of course, but it was designed without verbs, nouns, or adjectives. What is has is predicates ("bridi") which can be 1-place (like "sleeps", "is green", or "is (made of) iron"), 2-place ("is above", "loves", "is a feline of species...") or many place (eg "goes to .. from .. via.. by means ...) | |
Oct 27, 2022 at 21:36 | comment | added | user6726 | And as for shields, you're talking about perceptual fundamentality, which is philosophy and not linguistics but is indeed essential to understanding language. | |
Oct 27, 2022 at 21:34 | comment | added | user6726 | As for getting behind POS, why would you want to do that? That's a literal question: I have an answer, I don't know if it's the same as your reason for raising the question. | |
Oct 27, 2022 at 21:26 | comment | added | user6726 | @Lance, so you want to know how verb conjunction works? | |
Oct 27, 2022 at 21:10 | comment | added | Draconis♦ | @Lance I really recommend learning another language (through at least a semester or two of serious study) if you want to break out of the English-centric mold. Bonus points if you choose a non-Indo-European one, but really any language other than English will have a different set of lexical categories and define those categories differently. | |
Oct 27, 2022 at 21:05 | comment | added | Lance Pollard | "is there a class of category-neutral predicates in English", I have actually been studying hundreds of words the past few weeks like this, and believe (in English) there is always one word at the base, like "shield", you can say "shield thing", which is the shield, or "use shield", which is the action. If you can come up with a definition which uses more than what you were given (use shield), then it is not a foundational word. So the noun is the base. But just my take :). But your answer doesn't really show me how to use chained verbs-adjectives. | |
Oct 27, 2022 at 20:54 | comment | added | Lance Pollard | What I'm trying to do from a theoretical standpoint is to get behind all the POS and think of everything like your "roots", which can manifest into various POS. But it's extremely hard coming from English, so it seems like I want to be English-centric (I don't, it's just hard to break out of). From a programming/software standpoint, it is ingrained in me there are 3 things, there are objects, there are actions (functions), and there are properties (like "size") which have values (like "big"). So, hard to break out of the mold. | |
Oct 27, 2022 at 20:25 | history | answered | user6726 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |