Timeline for In English, how exactly does intonation reflect stress?
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| S Jul 23, 2023 at 11:50 | history | suggested | Andrew T. | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Jul 22, 2023 at 16:11 | answer | added | Lambie | timeline score: 1 | |
| Jul 22, 2023 at 14:20 | vote | accept | stupid | ||
| Jul 22, 2023 at 14:06 | comment | added | stupid | ah ok thank @JanusBahsJacquet | |
| Jul 22, 2023 at 13:53 | comment | added | Janus Bahs Jacquet | As it relates to intonation, it is indeed the pitch over the whole syllable that counts. As it relates to stress in English, syllables generally have a relatively constant pitch throughout ([ɪn] and [sʌlt] both have relatively level pitches), so you could say it’s roughly the ‘average’ pitch there; the change is then between those ‘averages’. Intonational units can be anything from a single syllable to a whole sentence, so you can’t apply the same logic there – in “Huh?”, the rise in pitch takes place within the syllable, for example. | |
| Jul 22, 2023 at 13:44 | comment | added | Janus Bahs Jacquet | That’s a slightly different sense of the word ‘pitch’. In purely physical terms, as a property of sound, pitch corresponds almost directly to the frequency of sound waves – and any sound has it, including gunshots, smoke detectors, boiling water, etc. The slightly narrower meaning mostly used in language, and relating to intonation, specifically relates to vocal pitch (generated by the vocal cords) and doesn’t apply to voiceless segments. Altering your mouth shape will affect the pitch, and that is part of how we identify [ʃ] from [s], but it’s not relevant to intonation. | |
| Jul 22, 2023 at 13:10 | answer | added | user6726 | timeline score: 3 | |
| Jul 22, 2023 at 9:48 | comment | added | stupid | it may be worth pointing out that the book i cite does seem to think that unvoiced phonemes have a pitch. they say voicing and pitch are separate and note that rounding the lips when saying /s/ "lowers the pitch" | |
| Jul 22, 2023 at 9:40 | comment | added | stupid | ok @JanusBahsJacquet can you elaborate on what you mean by "a change in pitch" then? do you mean the average pitch of the syllable? just the vowel? | |
| Jul 22, 2023 at 9:10 | comment | added | Janus Bahs Jacquet | Pitch is a feature of voice, so it has no meaning in relation to voiceless segments like /s/ or /k/ or /h/. It is also generally a suprasegmental feature, meaning that it applies to larger units than single segments/phonemes – syllables, phrases and sentences in English. With syllables inside words, we call the effects of pitch stress; applied to phrases and sentences, we call it intonation. The change in pitch is thus not between individual phonemes as much as it is between syllables. So there’s a change in pitch between /ɪn/ and /sʌlt/, whether that pitch is going up or going down. | |
| Jul 22, 2023 at 8:57 | history | edited | stupid | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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