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I recently stumbled upon these two concepts relaxed and na(t)ïve orthography, but I don't really known how to used them properly, any advise would be welcomed, thanks.

  • It's pretty straightforward to explain what a 'naive' orthography is and how this may contrast with one developed by a linguist, but I've never come across the term 'relaxed orthography', can you give a link to where you've seen it used? – Gaston Ümlaut Jul 28 '13 at 13:23
  • In this webpage about "Middle English Grammar" they pointed out that: " ... relaxed orthography in ME: words are spelled many different ways even in the same text. ..." (ME stands for Middle English) – richardtk_1 Jul 28 '13 at 13:58
  • I find that odd, they're actually talking about relaxed spelling, which is an acceptance of more than one way of spelling a word. To me that's quite a different thing from an orthography. A shallow orthography would preclude relaxed spelling, but having a deep orthography would not necessarily allow relaxed spelling! – Gaston Ümlaut Jul 29 '13 at 5:07
  • @GastonÜmlaut, I am no expert in the subject, but I would appreciate that you explain me the relation or difference between a relaxed and na(t)ïve orthography. – richardtk_1 Jul 29 '13 at 15:21
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An orthography is a system for writing a language. Ideally an orthography would be developed on the basis of a thorough analysis of the phonology of the language in question. The aim would be to have an unambiguous representation of each phoneme, with a one-to-one correspondence between graphemes and phonemes; this is known as a 'phonemic' or 'shallow' orthography. This can often be very difficult to achieve, but the less ambiguity in the writing system, the easier it seems to be for literacy. Japanese hiragana (not Kanji!) and the Finnish orthography are good examples of shallow orthographies

On the other hand there are some languages which have a standard orthography which involves a complex many-to-many relationship between graphemes and phonemes; these are referred to as 'deep' orthographies. English is a fairly well-known language with a deep orthography, which gives rise to the situation where even native speakers may not know how to pronounce a word seen in writing for the first time, or how to write a word heard for the first time.

A native (or naive) othography is one developed without being based on an analysis of the phonology. Typicaly it is created by speakers of the language in response to their desire to make written records and will be based on the best-known language that has a standard orthography: for example in Papua New Guinea people may draw on the Tok Pisin orthography. This means that the orthography is not a good match for their language, but it may be good enough that it meets some needs. Examples I've seen are of people wanting to write a song in their language for use in church, or people wanting to write their name, a sign on their house, and other such fairly short texts.

I'm not actually aware of the term 'relaxed orthography' but it seems from your link that the webpage is referring to 'relaxed spelling'. Relaxed spelling refers to a situation where there is little prescription of spelling, so it is acceptable for words to be spelled in a variety of ways. English has a deep orthography, which makes numerous spellings potentially possible for most words (eg the famous spelling of 'fish' as ghoti) but relaxed spelling is generally not acceptable, at least in recent times (in the 18th century and earlier, English spelling was very relaxed). The idea of relaxed spelling generally wouldn't be very applicable to languages with a shallow orthography as the spelling is an accurate representative of the pronunciation.

  • Super necropost, but Japanese historically had an incredibly relaxed spelling system as it used Chinese characters for sound, and obviously a tremendous amount of Chinese characters map to the same sound. You can always predict sound from spelling, and you can always get an "acceptable" spelling based on sound; it's just that there are zillions of "correct" ways to spell a word. – ithisa Dec 7 '13 at 20:14

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