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Right now I'm trying to learn how to pronounce different vowel sounds in IPA and i wonder if I'm Pronouncing [ɤ] right.

ɤ

I've been trying to learning French for a long time and I wonder if my Pronounciations of some of the nasal vowels and [ɲ] are correct.

/ɲ/

/ɑ̃/

/ɛ̃/

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  • Perhaps also supply a short wordlist for more context for our ears. e.g. for /ɛ̃/ you could read 'Invitez vos cousins demain pour boire ce vin' Commented Feb 20, 2022 at 18:07
  • Here, sorry if I sound bit strange, I'm 16, I actually thought of recording a short wordlist containing the nasal vowels but since my level of French pretty low I wasn't able to think of any examples of the nasal vowels on my own. Commented Feb 20, 2022 at 19:52
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    Nice. To my ears, /ɛ̃/ is a bit low, close to /ɑ̃/. There are dialects that pronounce /ɛ̃/ similarly to how you do it, but I think for a learner it's more helpful to distinguish all sounds clearly. If you want some more sentences: /ɲ/ L'agneau ignore vos signes. /ɑ̃/ Donnez-en aux enfants. /ɤ/ is not in French to my knowledge; are you thinking of /ø/ or /œ/? Commented Feb 20, 2022 at 20:13
  • Yeah, I know there's /ɤ/ in french, I'm trying to pronounce all the vowel sounds on the IPA vowel chart and I wondered if my attempt at [ɤ] was correct. also is the [ə] sound in French realized as [ ø œ]? it doesn't sound like a true schwa to my ears. Commented Feb 20, 2022 at 23:01
  • As already stated, there is no /ɤ/ in French (see French IPA). Your first recording sounds more like a /ɔ/ to my ears.
    – jlliagre
    Commented Feb 20, 2022 at 23:46

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In case you're still interested, here's what I think.

First, yes, your /ɲ/ is correct.

Second, you're realizing /ɑ̃/ as [õ]. If you do this, you could potentially confuse native speakers, because (as you may have noticed) it's typical to describe [õ] as realizing /ɔ̃/ (which contrasts with /ɑ̃/). For example, FR "penser" is /pɑ̃se/ [pɑ̃se] (EN "to think") whereas FR "poncer" is /pɔ̃se/ [põse] (EN "to sand").

Third, you're realizing /ɛ̃/ as [ã], which is more or less how /ɛ̃/ is realized in standard (Parisian) French. It's typical to describe /ɛ̃/ as being realized by /æ̃/ in standard French, but for me, that's a more Southern realization. Also, it's common in and around Toulouse for /ɛ̃/ to be realized as [ɛ̃].

I hope that the above helps.

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In case of /ɤ/, you actually pronounce it like [o̞], with detectable rounding. You need to try more close and less rounded sound.

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  • what about this one? Commented Feb 21, 2022 at 20:23
  • Can you pronounce it within a syllable? It is too fast to perceive it. But I still hear the slight rounding.
    – T1nts
    Commented Feb 21, 2022 at 21:31
  • And this sound still in the open position. You need the closer one.
    – T1nts
    Commented Feb 21, 2022 at 21:33
  • Sorry for a late reply, here, I couldn't think of anything better. Commented Feb 22, 2022 at 18:13
  • is this better? Commented Feb 22, 2022 at 18:16

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