Most of time when I say a word with r before θ or ð, my tongue slides on my palate and it goes to down mouth, behind my lower teeth. This movement produce a sound similar with tap or click, sometimes the tongue don't go until down, but yet produce this different sound. I just can produce the sound properly when I say very carefully, what I think a bad behavior, because my brain need to learn do unconscious.

It's more common when I say the r before ð.

The R and the TH are okay, because R I have on my language and the TH I have learned practicing a lot.

Saying "More than four thieves" is a pretty difficult without thinking.

This noise is common when we say very fast?

Thank you ^^

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    It's not necessary for an American English postvocalic /r/ to touch the palate at all, even in a rhotic idiolect. If your tongue is retroflexed, it will simply produce an "R-colored vowel" without touching the palate, and then can simply drop down to the bottom of the upper incisors (not the lower incisors -- interdental fricatives touch the top teeth). A light tap of the tongue apex on the bottom of the upper incisors is sufficient to produce an interdental fricative.
    – jlawler
    Aug 15 '14 at 16:30
  • @jlawler I really don't touch on palate, I just do the normal r, but in the path between R and TH my tongue slide and sometimes goes down, when say very fast. Try to say "More than" very fast. I really can't explain what is that.
    – Apprentice
    Aug 15 '14 at 21:33
  • What is your native language? Aug 18 '14 at 12:07
  • @musicallinguist Brazillian Portuguese, southern accent, we have the retroflex R, but this just happens when very fast.
    – Apprentice
    Aug 19 '14 at 2:11

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