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Timeline for r in Romance names of London

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Aug 25, 2015 at 7:22 comment added brass tacks No; I actually don't know if the n was intervocalic when it was subject to rhotacism. We do agree on the rhotacism of n, though!
Aug 25, 2015 at 7:05 comment added Lucian @sumelic: Do we at least agree on the rhotacism of intervocalic n then ?
Aug 25, 2015 at 6:44 comment added brass tacks I don't think either of those is metathesis... from what I remember, Spanish and Italian forms are generally descended from the Vulgar Latin accusative, so it would actually be padre < patrem and madre < matrem. Metathesis, as you say, requires two sounds to switch places. Our answers contradict because I say that no metathesis took place, and you say that metathesis did take place.
Aug 25, 2015 at 6:34 comment added Lucian @sumelic: The metathesis of r is quite frequent in Romance languages, so that's why I immediately thought of that (e.g., pater/padre and mater/madre in both Spanish and Italian). I also don't see how my answer contradicts yours.
Aug 25, 2015 at 5:18 comment added brass tacks What would be the metathesis? Londinium > Londirium > Londriium? I think metathesis is unnecessary: all that is needed is syncope of the i. Is there some reason you think the explanation I gave in my answer is not correct?
Aug 24, 2015 at 22:47 history answered Lucian CC BY-SA 3.0