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Here's my childish challenge to generative grammar:

Could anyone give me an analysis of Russian sentence Мама мыла раму. (Mom washed the (window) frame.) from the point of view of modern grammar theories (Generative Grammar, Head-First Grammar, Construction Grammar, etc.)?

The background: The sentence is learned by the Russians in their elementary school as an example of the free word order in Russian. Indeed, since the subject and the direct object are morphologically marked (Мама мыла раму.) the sentence is understandable for all the possible word permutations: SVO, SOV, OVS, OSV, VOS, VSO.

SVO may look like a more natural word order in the stand alone phrase, but one could easily think of the contexts where any of the alternative word orders will be more appropriate (topicalization?).

I assume that the analysis in terms of Transformational Generative Grammar (TGG) would postulate a derivation tree based on the SVO order [S [NP Мама] [VP мыла [NP раму]]], and then add the permutation rules to accommodate the alternative word orders. Hence is my critique of TGG:

  • Occam's razor: the explanation seems by far more complicated than the intuitively obvious relations between the verb, the nominative subject and the accusative object.
  • There is no obvious reason to postulate one word order in comparison to others.
  • Postulating an initial word order breaks the "universal" nature of TGG, as it is more suitable for the analysis of languages with a fixed word order, such as English, than for synthetic languages like Russian (German seems like an intermediate case, where the subject and the object can be swapped, but the verb is always second.)

As I mentioned previously I am interested in seeing the analysis done by somebody knowledgeable. If my reasoning seems naïve - the more I would like to learn why/where.

Note Thank you for the interesting feedback. However the question itself is a request for actual analysis of a typical SVO sentence in an inflected language, such as Russian. And not necessarily from the point of view of TGG.

Further challenge Just to spice the things up, let us add a word: "Мама мыла раму мылом." (Mom washed the frame with a soap.)

  • "TGG" refers to the theory as practiced in the 60's and early 70's, e.g. the Aspects model. Or did you mean "in contemporary Minimalism"? I assume you mean in the Aspects model since this seems to be about word order and languages like Russian were more of a problem for that theory than for Minimalism. – user6726 Feb 17 at 16:32
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    1. If you say there is no fundamental order, this does a) save you from positing a different one, and b) allows everyone to start a presentation however they want. 2. IMHO, if it were assumed that SVO or another was fundamental, this should imply that all phrases can be parsed in that order. There is a good argument against that, namely that no signal occurs in isolation. So you absolutely need discourse semantics. The fact that you could reconstruct context from various examples is notwithstanding if there are aberant examples which taken out of context can reliably confuse native speakers. – vectory Feb 18 at 18:48
  • I will also note that the very limited data you present here does not provide evidence of a verb phrase constituent, so I don't think a VP node is justified. (It may well be justified with other Russian data, I'm just saying it's not justified with what you've provided us.) – WavesWashSands Feb 21 at 21:20
  • I'd say that I gave too much background, since many people have commented on it... bur no one has seemed to pay attention to what the question/request actually is. – Vadim Feb 22 at 13:04
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    Russian shares most of the properties of the Indo-European family. Latin could probably serve as a reasonable substitute - it is has preferred word order, but its inflections also allow for arbitrary SVO permutations. – Vadim Feb 25 at 9:54
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I base my analysis loosely on the approaches of Croft (2001) and Diessel (2019).

Under a constructionist approach, a construction is sign, i.e. a form-meaning pairing, and within Diessel's approach specifically, a sign is an association network. There are three relations that can hold within a sign:

  • Symbolic relations - associations between form and meaning
  • Sequential relations - associations between elements that appear sequentially.
  • Taxonomic relations - associations between constructional schemas at different levels of concreteness

In Croft's approach, there are additionally semantic relations, which are between elements different components of a meaning. There are situations where these are absolutely necessary, though I think we can get away with omitting them for the current set of sentences.

I will also note that this analysis is very unsatisfying, as we only have six sentences available, which is not nearly enough for a satisfying analysis (see my comments to the OP). Fortunately, CxG approaches allow us to focus on the present construction and gloss over some of the stuff that cannot be gleaned from the present data (e.g. the presence of a cross-construction Subject, or the parts of speech of Nouns and Verbs) which are thought to be emergent from facts about particular constructions. In most other approaches, these notions are thought to be basic and necessary for the description of specific constructions (which is why I'm not using them).

Here is the network I've drawn:

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At the top level is the transitive clause. You should notice that there are no sequential links, so the three components' orders are not yet known. At the second level, I have put all six permutations available. You should notice that the link from the second to the third component is stronger than from the first to the second. This is because it should be easier predict the third from the second than the second from the first. At the third level, I have put in the schemas at the level of morphology. If there are e.g. quirky subjects in Russian, there could be more than one construction inherited by each box at the second level. I put in the lexical items on the bottom level.

I've made lots of simplifcations though, including:

  • 'Mum' and 'frame' should be linked to the root, not the whole word. I was too lazy to create even smaller boxes within the box (and it would have been hard to see anyway.)
  • Agent, patient, predicator should still be inherited at the bottom level.

In addition, as I focused only on a single construction, there are cross-constructional relations not represented:

  • 'Mum', 'wash' and 'frame' should in turn be linked to a network of semantically associated words, e.g. 'window' for 'frame' - i.e. lexical relationships in Diessel's framework.
  • I did not put in the 'lateral' associations between constructions at the same level, or constructional relations in Diessel's framework
  • Some words are more likely to be put in a slot than others. I did not represent filler-slot relationships in this diagram either, which is necessary to capture facts like e.g. 'The frame washed mum' is much less likely than 'mum washed the frame'.

Croft, William. 2001. Radical construction grammar: syntactic theory in typological perspective. Oxford: Oxford Univ. Press.

Diessel, Holger. 2019. The grammar network. Cambridge University Press.

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  • Thank you, especially for the references! I will need a bit of time to digest this... – Vadim Feb 26 at 12:46
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You say you assume that TGG assumes underlying SVO order for all languages. Why do you assume this? I don't recall any TGG linguist ever proposing such a thing (and I've been around awhile). I just did a quick google search, and the closest I could come was a definition by Haj Ross of "the universal base hypothesis" that makes base rules universal except for the order of sister constituents. And I don't think Ross was actually proposing this -- it was a definition.

You must think American linguists are really dumb.

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    American linguists are not dumb :) My knowledge about the subject is rather superficial, and I am seeking for more information and explanations (my domains of research are physics and computational biology, where I do come in contact with the formal grammars.) The field of linguistics has been dominated by the American linguists - deservedly so. Whether their native language influenced their theories is an intriguing question - since it is implicitly invoking the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis. – Vadim Feb 18 at 8:47
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    Closer to the subject matter: the derivation of the parsing tree does not require an assumption about a specific word order. However, once one starts talking about transformations, an initial word order has to be postulated as a departing point, even if it is not stated explicitly. – Vadim Feb 18 at 8:49
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    Why do you say an initial word order has to be specified? I don't think so. You could, for example, make the convention that if any of the allowable orders satisfies the structural description of the transformation, then the transformation is applicable. However, this discussion we are having is rather archaic, since nobody believes in Chomsky's original formalization of transformations, these days. It's ancient history. – Greg Lee Feb 18 at 18:06
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Good points. Exactly this criticism led to the creation of other frameworks in the 1970s and 1980s. In LFG, say, your example sentence would be analysed by the (exocetric) rule S -> X, where X is a metasymbol standing for both NP and V(P). Grammatical relations are captured in a separate structure (an AVM in LFG). The AVM for “mama” would be the value of the attribute ‘subject’ in the predicate’s AVM etc. In this kind of framework, there’s a phrase-based structure for word order and a dependency structure for grammatical functions. This approach is called ‘constraint-based’ because the AVMs are created in the course of parsing by applying constraints on morphological and syntactic features of the constituents.

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Generative grammar is supposed to be universal, so it must be that any language can be described using the same structure. The relations between words that are intuitive in Russian are less important in languages that don't mark cases, like English.

Generative grammar is definitely more elegant in a language like English, with strict word order, than in Russian, with free word order. This is the downside of a universal theory. Whether a universal theory is better, or truer, than a particular model suited to each language is an open question.

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    I see a contradiction in calling "universal" the grammar that is so clearly more suitable for a language with a fixed word order. – Vadim Feb 17 at 12:25
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    @Vadim It's a universal model because although it might be more suitable for one language, it's supposed to work in every language. A universal model that could better accommodate Russian would have more trouble with English (and if multiple universal models are needed to cover all languages as simply as possible, this would be a problem with the theory of universal grammar itself) – b a Feb 17 at 12:49
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    Then shouldn't it be one model that works equally well for all languages? – Vadim Feb 17 at 13:21
  • @Vadim The goal is to model the universal grammar that exists in the human mind. I'm not saying that universal grammar exists or that an approach that emphasizes syntax is the best possible model of it, but this is the assumption of generative grammar – b a Feb 17 at 14:21
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    @WavesWashSands Universal grammar is the name of the theory – b a Feb 24 at 15:03
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I just want to clarify that there is no preferred order.
Spoken language uses a serial channel, but it represents a tree (actually a net), (which is necessarily 2D and approaching it from different directions exposes the nodes in more than 2 ways).
Synthetic languages use morphemes to decline the nodes, and analytic languages use order, but there is nothing that prevents a language from using both methods (other than Zipfian waste).
Note that there is a third method: a single added declension for each analytic order, but no NatLang seems to recognize that.

(response to comment)
The major division of a sentence is into subject and predicate and there is no preferred order there. The predicate may be divided into verbal and adverbial phrases (I include the direct object as a type of adverbial) and, again, there is no preferred order.
Within these phrases (subject, verb, object/adverbial) there are lexical items (things, qualities, and actions - the open classes), and functional items (relations [between things, which may be lexical or deictic] - the closed classes, often reduced to morphemes), and again there is no preferred order, but there is a tendency (within a given language) to a consistent order; ie, a functional item will typically precede, or typically follow, the lexical item. Here it may be conjectured that the two classes (open vs. closed) may be stored differently in the brain and so there is some efficiency in a consistent way of constructing a 1D string for speaking, resulting in head first vs. head last languages. This ordering within phrases can look like a preference between phrases (such as where a copula has no lexical verb and an object has no adverbial head), but this order is illusory, and there can be head last languages with SVO order.

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  • There seems to be a preferred order in generative grammar theories. E.g., I am now reading a textbook on generative syntax which defines the syntactic categories by the position of elements in the phrase and spends quite a bit of time on the notion of precedence, i.e. word order encoded in the tree. I suppose that at some point in the book these notions are revised to accommodate the languages with free order. But it is hard to imagine a theory being built and developed in this order in Russian. – Vadim Feb 29 at 9:41
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It would be difficult to analyze the Russian language from the viewpoint of GG since it is synthetic, not analytical language. However, it is, of course, possible, yet you must not forget to mark the inflections. In more complicated sentences, it would be very difficult I'm afraid.

Some kind of dependency grammar would be better for the analysis of synthetic languages with rather free word-order.

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